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Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 10142023.md

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+Questions from Benjamin Washikala
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+- Purpose of questions was to give feedback to brothers in the Congo and a conference there
+- There are commandments, principals and examples. It's good to keep these distinguished and clear.
+ 
+No one has had significant feedback about the Anthem hymn book
+ 
+Plan on meeting Sheryl Knapp at some point too
+ 
+Christian Price is taking over the background checks from Pete. Steve Price reviews them and then they are filed in the safe deposit box
+ 
+Matt Bell, may not be permanent, looking to help his boys, so may follow them to wherever they want
+ 
+Steve Bouchie, interested in having a Galilee-like program here at the chapel
+ 
+Have Dave Dunlop come and do conference on dispensations?  
+Help with Biblical interpretation  
+Prepare our kids  
+Reformed teaching dominating out in the world  
+Start by asking David if he's available
+ 
+Paul Rabidot  
+Regional elders and shepherds conference  
+Topic is mental health, we should try to host
+    
+Congolese meeting at the chapel

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 10282023.md

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+Fall Fest
+
+- Somebody emailed Grayson that they won't be involved because it's indoors
+- Seems the concern was Halloween costumes in the "sanctuary"
+- The person (don't know who) has decided to be discreet, if rumors started or the person brought it back to the elders or was going to leave because of this, then the elders might address is directly
+ 
+Thethe, girl from minnesota
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+- She is not coming, nothing further to do
+ 
+Pete has been handling to background checks, transitioning it to Christian, will take a few months to transition fully
+ 
+Evelyn and Ian changing their phone number
+ 
+Steve Bouchie's desire to do discipleship stuff
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+- What do we already have going on?
+- We have a lot going on: calendar is full
+- Nick is doing Sunday evening discipleship, Sam Thomas is going and has been a real help

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 7292023.md

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+Visitation needed, especially for some who have been coming regularly and shown interest in staying and attending regularly.
+ 
+What do the elders cover?
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+- Hearing testimonies of the individuals
+- In the past, Steve and Carl would review the history of the chapel, coming out of having no elders, meeting the challenges that came out of that. That may no longer be necessary as an introductory thing with new people--it's not as relevant anymore, nor as recent.
+- Discuss fellowship, it's concepts
+    
+    - Hebrews 13:17 - responsibility on both sides (leaders and flock)
+    - Differentiate between membership and fellowship
+    - Back of our directory has some clarifying thoughts regarding this
+- Discuss how we meet, if they're attending, they're seeing it
+    
+    - Elder-led
+    - Variety of teachers
+    - Give clarity, opportunity for questions
+- Discuss some doctrine, or "hot topics"
+    
+    - "We are no a homeschool church"--sometimes clarifications like that are necessary
+    - We are not a group of hot-topics we congregate around
+    - We don't "push" certain things from the pulpit because our singular focus is on Christ
+ 
+Who do the elders need to visit?
+
+- Gabriela and Michael
+- Miguel and Sheila
+- Sheryl Knapp (Pete asked if she thinks she wants to be part of assembly, she's not sure), Bryan Knapp's sister
+- Rutzmosers (Todd and Pete already visited)
+- Amanda Cannon
+- Mike Hitch
+- David and Stephanie Diaz (David is Gabriela's brother)

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 8122023.md

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+Kiera's situation
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+- Needed a place to stay Saturday night
+- She's in North Dakota, returning today
+- She can't return home, dad sold house
+- Holly said she can use their car
+- Kiera wanted to sleep in Holly's car behind the chapel, can't do that for the sake of our neighbors, not safe for her
+- She could have been working on this last weekend, instead of travelling up north!
+- Still have job? Don't know…
+- Figure out something temporarily, then have direct conversation with her
+- Extended Stay is an option, to the end of the month, looks to be around $43/night
+- Talk to deacons about paying for this stay
+- Talk to Kiera about it
+- Get Stephanie involved in discipling her--good idea to get help Kiera handle things straight!
+- Todd will call Stephanie
+ 
+Spanish conference
+
+- David and Geraldine Cayama were there, David looked back, bronchitis turned to pneumonia
+- Geraldine taking care of him at home, lost some work hours because of this, job where she does cleaning for hotels, can go back to it, hasn't lost this permanently
+- Not doing well financially, possibly, Pete not 100% sure, Geraldine wasn't super clear
+- May need financial help there
+- Share with the deacons
+ 
+From men's business meeting:
+
+- What are the chapel's ministry priorities?
+- Helps fund: how much do we want to commit?
+ 
+Jim Hasemeyer
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+- Speaker at the spanish conference
+ 
+Pathways conflicting with prayer meeting
+
+- Reach out to Grayson, consider options
+- Pathways set for this semester?
+- Could be several ways to make prayer meeting more efficient--shorter time for requests
+ 
+Conversation with Darrin
+
+- Steve and Pete talked together
+- Darrin approached elders, confused on what to do to go forward
+- Wants to get to Japan quickly
+- Seems slow going through Pioneer
+- We would help him along through CMML, we commend through CMML
+- Darrin, doesn't have car, haven't seen him work with others
+- Expect it to take 2-3 years to get there, quickest way would be to get a job there, he has training in ESL
+- Would encourage him that way, taking a job would accept him in the culture
+- Steve cautioned Darrin not to be too American--mentioned that this gets in Brock's way sometimes

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 8262023.md

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+Kiara
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+- Make sure elders are supporting Stephanie with her mentoring of Kiara
+- Staying at motel at the moment, through 9/2
+- Today, looking at apartment (room in a house), in Independence? Woman is in the LDS though, has not proselytized her yet
+- Probably not wise to let someone vulnerable like Kiara live with an LDS person. Pete's roommate when he was a new believer was an RLDS and it was very confusing for him. Stephanie is convinced this is a good move for her. She has someone going with her, not Stephanie.
+- Has part-time job at animal clinic, looking for other jobs, only paying $12/hr, can work as available/needed
+- Stephanie is pushing hard for he to look for jobs, $15-20/hr jobs, going to job fair today
+ 
+Darren
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+- Working in direction of moving to Japan with job teaching English.
+- May be as soon as Spring
+ 
+Pathways
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+- Looking for a few changes to schedule, might help with concerns about the transition to prayer meeting
+- Shifting dinner and games? Dinner may be one of the first things, clean-up can happen while other things are going on (game time)
+ 
+Prayer meeting
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+- Less asking people for requests, maximizing time praying
+- Long silences sometimes--some brothers not participating much?
+- Silences can be good too
+ 
+Sheryl Knapp
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+- Wants to be put on lady's email list
+ 
+Sunday School
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+- Once teacher lists are complete, Pete will need to do background checks on them

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 852023.md

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+Gabriela & Michael and David & Stephanie meeting with Todd, Carl and Pete
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+- Moved from Colorado
+- Started in a baptist church
+- Moved to a charismatic church, but the teaching appears to have turned them away
+- Asked questions about losing salvation, indicating they didn't align with that teaching of losing ones salvation
+- They went back to their baptist church and expressed getting "re-centered" on doctrine
+- Gabi wasn't going to church for 6-7 years before coming to the chapel
+- David told Gabi about us, had connections through Lakewood Bible Chapel in Colorado via David
+- Gabi felt conviction to go to church, visited 4-5 other churches, liked "something different" when they came to us, very positive on how things are here (warm, welcome, comfortable--David and Stephanie said similar things)
+- David & Stephanie: child is "Nairobi"
+- David and Gabi baptized in baptist church in Colorado
+- Michael not a believer, not baptized, Stephanie, not sure?
+ 
+Miguel and Shiela ? Have not visited with them. Miguel has some kind of vision issue, won't come without his wife because of that (driving?).
+ 
+Gabi and David interested in discipleship. We lack in this! Steve suggested a "orientation"-type class. Using a Gene Gibson book (Survey of Basic Christianity, Basic Christian Training) would be good.  
+[https://plymouthbrethren.org/article/4937](https://plymouthbrethren.org/article/4937)
+ 
+Amanda Cannon
+
+- Greenfield Iowa, grew up
+- Father is an elder
+- Went to Emmaus, graduated with ministry degree of some kind
+- From Atlantic, IA area
+- Started home daycare business, bought big house, ran it for 15 years
+- Got married, husband professed salvation at that time, been divorced for 3-4 years
+- He left the marriage, ran up debt in her name, if you don't act, you're liable, she filed for divorce
+- Within two months, he lived with another lady and ran off with her, in hindsight there is uncertainty if he is even saved
+- She stayed single, she's around 40, for last 20 years had chronic headaches
+- Sold hours, came to KC because they have good pain care facility, was living off of profit from selling house
+- Looking for a job now
+- Suffered from depression in the past, suicidal in the past
+- Clear testimony, assembly practices are familiar, not an issue in any way, usual hot topics not an issue
+- In the past, hot topics have often been:
+    
+    - Head covering/women's issue
+    - Home schooling
+    - Calvinism
+- Readily wanted to be received
+- One of the fastest and easiest visit they've had!
+- She's baptized
+- Touched nicely by ladies' event last night
+- Wait a week to announce reception of Amanda, give Gabi and David opportunity to know what's going on there
+ 
+Carl and Mary-Anne Rutzmoser
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+- Go to Westbrook (on Antioch) one Sunday a month, otherwise attend here
+- Involved in a study at Westbrook, homeless pantry they help with too, have friends at Westbrook
+- Been travelling lately, family in Wichita, a daughter is moving
+ 
+Darrin Dorsey
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+- Pioneer (ministries?) is not on the same page with how we do things, Darrin wanting to go through Pioneer to Japan
+- Elders have suggested a way forward, nothing has really happened--Darrin hasn't taken these avenues
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Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 9162023.md

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+Todd and Pete are going to talk to Brandon about the organizational aspects of the men's study. The first one this fall was bad--he started preparing breakfast at 8am which is when the study starts! He also led the study, but couldn't start until 9:12am.
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+Kiara, checking out Christian girl she met on social media to live with in Wichita. Seems to have checked out, but can't move in until October. Kiara was offered to live in Pittsburg, KS with her sister. Transferring from one Freddy's to another. Her insurance worked out after she thought it was cancelled.
+ 
+Anthem song book, general conclusion seems to be to make the song book available for singing from, but not buying for each seat, using wisdom to choose which songs we sing. Seems like some teaching is needed on music and worship, it's purpose and the biblical reasoning and support for it.

Church/Elders meeting notes/Elders meeting 9302023.md

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+Men's breakfast  
+David planning on bringing main dish  
+Brandon planning on leading study
+ 
+Carl Rutzmoser  
+Sometimes focuses more on teaching than focusing on Christ
+ 
+Anthem hymnbook announcement  
+Don't expect "push back", may be some questions in both directions, but based on feedback, nothing major
+ 
+Carder's  
+Will be at meeting, last time during this visit  
+Say something about Carder's  
+A lot going on tomorrow, have announcer say something
+ 
+Kiara  
+Planning on living with sister in Fort Scott, visiting every weekend  
+Saving $2000 to move into apartment in Wichita
+ 
+Benjamin Washikala  
+Planning on going to conference in Congo
+ 
+Matthew Joy  
+Heard good presentation on how God is working in persecution around the world. He is a member of a baptist church. Could he come here and present?  
+Perhaps they can do it in their home and invite people